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The Bible Is Full Of Contradictions! So Says The Unbeliever…

The Unbeliever is quick to boldly state that the Bible is full of contradictions. Just because they say that and usually without much thought to the statement, does not mean it is true? Can they point out a contradiction that we can examine in context?

What is a contradiction? Contradictions happen when two or more different statements on a topic can’t both be true at the same time and in the same sense.

I welcome any unbeliever to show me a contradiction and explain why it is so?

God Bless
Brian Mason

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25 responses to “The Bible Is Full Of Contradictions! So Says The Unbeliever…

  1. Then if you don’t believe in the God of the Bible, why do you fight Him so? You must have conclusive proof to write that God doesn’t exist. Also I can see micro-evolution and adaptation as there is tons of observable evidence, however there is none for macro-evolution. If as you say that the museums are full of proof of macro-evolution just give me one example. Please don’t bring up the fraud of Lucy either.

  2. I hadn’t intended posting again, but a couple of things you said stuck in my crop, so to speak.

    RE: Feduccia’s opinion, John Harshman would disagree, and I would have a difficult time believing anything that came out of your above reference, the Creation Museum.

    You mentioned, “God Haters,” which term creates its own illogical paradox – one cannot hate that which doesn’t exist, which brings me to my second point, you doubt evolution, for which there are literally mountains of evidence, and yet criticize those who fail to believe in an invisible entity who lives somewhere in the sky, for which there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever. It’s easy to understand why you call yourselves, Apologetics, the religious have much for which to apologize.

  3. “It is my concern in the sense that if I am going to use my time to respond to your site, I need to know whether or not it will be censored – further, your precautions tell me a great deal about the kind of person with whom I am dealing. “ Did I not already tell you my intentions? Please focus.

    “Yes, the archeopteryx is a perfect example of a transitional fossil. Museums are full of proofs of evolution, only the most unlearned could possibly deny that. “
    It was a BIRD.
    ““Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth-bound, feathered dinosaur. But it’s not. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of ‘paleobabble’ is going to change that.” Feduccia, A.; cited in: V. Morell, Archaeopteryx: Early Bird Catches a Can of Worms, Science 259(5096):764–65, 5 February 1993.

    Since that book, more recent evidence has even further devastated the hoax theory:
    1. The skeletons had pneumatized vertebrae and pelvis. This indicates the presence of both a cervical and abdominal air sac, i.e. at least two of the five sacs present in modern birds. This in turn indicates that the unique avian lung design was already present in what most evolutionists claim is the earliest bird.4 An evolutionist trying to forge a dinosaur with feathers would not have thought to pneumatize allegedly reptilian bones. Rather, the evidence supports the creationist view that birds have always been birds.
    2. Analysis of the skull with computer tomography (CT) scanning shows that Archaeopteryx had a brain like a modern bird’s, three times the size of that of a dinosaur of equivalent size (although smaller than that of living birds). Archaeopteryx even had large optic lobes to process the visual input needed for flying. Furthermore, even the inner ear had a cochlea length and semicircular canal propoprtions were in the range of a modern flying bird’s. This implies that Archaeopteryx could hear in a similar way, and also had the sense of balance required for coordinating flight.5 Pterosaurs likewise had similar brain structures for flight—the large optic lobes, semicircular canals for balance, and huge floccular lobes, probably for coordination of the head, eye and neck allowing gaze-stabilization while flying.6 Once more, a forger adding feathers to a dino would not have thought to make an avian braincase, while it is yet another problem for evolutionists.
    Creation Ministries.
    http://creation.com/archaeopteryx-unlike-archaeoraptor-is-not-a-hoax-it-is-a-true-bird-not-a-missing-link

    I paste this as I leave it to the actual scientists. It is a hoax, and you are buying into it.
    Yes your “friend” tweeted looking for help. I know

    I like how you are suggesting I am censoring comments, and you are correct however you by indication are suggesting I am taking things out because I don’t like the answer! Not true, but I know the snake pit of atheists will think I am by implication.

    You say “ I don’t see enough going on here to make wasting my time to post further, worth my time, so censor in peace.” So be it.

  4. RE: “there is no archeological proof for the existence of whole hosts of people and rulers who existed in antiquity, and whose existence is firmly taught in history and anthropology courses today. I simply don’t get your point?”

    Whether or not Socrates, or some other personage from antiquity existed, has nothing to do with promises of salvation and eternal life – when a book DOES purport to promise such things, most readers would like to know they are reading the truth.

    RE: “Actually I moderate replies so that atheists do not put abusive material on my site without my knowledge and can defend against God haters. BTW the way I run my blog….how is it your concern?”

    It is my concern in the sense that if I am going to use my time to respond to your site, I need to know whether or not it will be censored – further, your precautions tell me a great deal about the kind of person with whom I am dealing.

    RE: “As a skeptic I don’t believe that Darwinian evolution has any proof, and all Mr. Dawkins has to do is show one example and he can’t and I assume neither can you?”

    Yes, the archaeopteryx is a perfect example of a transitional fossil. Museums are full of proofs of evolution, only the most unlearned could possibly deny that.

    Actually, I was told of your site by a friend, but upon closer inspection, I don’t see enough going on here to make wasting my time to post further, worth my time, so censor in peace.

  5. I will post (and have) your comments. If you get abusive and take it to the gutter I will not post it…fair?

  6. Actually I moderate replies so that atheists do not put abusive material on my site without my knowledge and can defend against God haters. BTW the way I run my blog….how is it your concern?

  7. Doubts exist. I am a skeptic as well however by suggesting Moses never existed is a complete stretch. Because as you state there is no evidence there is no archeological proof for the existence of whole hosts of people and rulers who existed in antiquity, and whose existence is firmly taught in history and anthropology courses today. I simply don’t get your point?
    As a skeptic I don’t believe that Darwinian evolution has any proof, and all Mr. Dawkins has to do is show one example and he can’t and I assume neither can you?

  8. I see you moderate replies, clearly a sign of one who fears uncensored responses. If I were selling snake oil, I, too, would prefer that no one who could challenge my pitch, be allowed to interfere.

  9. Actually, the doubts go even further back than you’ve noted.

    In the 15th Century, Bishop Tostatus suggested that certain passages were written by one of the prophets, not by Moses.
    As early as 1520, Carlstadt, a leader of the Reformation movement in Germany, wrote a pamphlet arguing that Moses did not write the Pentateuch. 
    In 1574, A. Du Maes, a Roman Catholic scholar, suggested that the Pentateuch was composed by Ezra, who used old manuscripts as a basis.
    Thomas Hobbes, the English philosopher, concluded in 1651 that Moses wrote only parts of Deuteronomy. 
    In Tractatus theologico-politicus (1677), Baruch Spinoza, the Jewish philosopher, recognized as one of the founders of modern biblical criticism, reached a conclusion much like that of Du Maes, that Ezra compiled Genesis to II Kings from documents of varying dates. Shortly afterward, Richard Simon, a Roman Catholic priest, often called “the father of biblical criticism,” gathered together the substance of critical analyses up to his time and raised the problem of literary history, thus opening the door to the application of techniques used in the study of non-sacred literature to the Bible.
    Actually, I believe you’ve created your own contradiction by asserting that, “Moses,” whose dates, had he existed, would have fallen somewhere between 1250 and 1400 BCE, “could easily have been the one that intertwined the Pentateuch,” the last installment of which was written after 722 BCE.

  10. “Anyone with any significant knowledge of the Bible, knows that the Torah, or the Pentateuch, or the first five books of the Bible, “According to Moses,” however you choose to call it, was not written by Moses, if he ever existed…” You say it was JEPD?

    This is an assertion by H.B. Witter in the early 1700s, and he made this assertion by saying there were “parallel accounts in the creation story”. This method of deduction started in 1753 when Parisian physician named Austruc analyzed the book of Genesis. He then concluded by assertion that it had two main sources: a Jehovist and an Elohist.  However, he did not deny Mosaic authorship of the Pentateuch.

    This analysis led to the assumption that where the word Jehovah appears in large quantities in sections of writings, it is the result of an author who used the word “Jehovah” or the tetragramatton YHWH predominantly.  

    Even if Moses was out of the picture it would be no big deal. Moses could easily have been the one that intertwined the Pentateuch.
    There are plenty of passages in Genesis that have references to God using both divine names “the Lord God” or “Yahweh Elohim”.
    So my friend if you believe this you are believing assertions. I do not see a contradiction here as well.

  11. Anyone with any significant knowledge of the Bible, knows that the Torah, or the Pentateuch, or the first five books of the Bible, “According to Moses,” however you choose to call it, was not written by Moses, if he ever existed, in 1200-1400 BCE, but rather by at least four separate groups, known as the “Yahwist (J) Source,” which wrote about 950 BCE, in the Southern Kingdom of Judea, the “Elohist (E) Source,” which wrote c.850 BCE in the Northern Kingdom of Israel, both of which were combined into JE around 750, BCE, when the E Source was brought south to Judea just prior to the destruction of the Kingdom of Israel. A third source, known as the “Deuteronimic (D) Source,” surfaced during the time of Jeremiah, c.800 BCE (and believed by many to have been written by Jeremiah himself), and the fourth source, the “Priestly (P) Source,” which was written in captivity after the fall of Israel in 722 BCE – all of which were pieced together, like a patchwork quilt, by a Redactor in 400 BCE.

    Genesis 1, for example, was written entirely by the Priestly Source, with the intention that it replace the tale of the anthropomorphic god of Gen 2, who takes walks on the Earth “in the cool of the day,” and personally hand-crafts clothing for the fictitious “Adam” and “Eve,” but the Redactor, working more than three hundred years later, decided to throw them both in, just to cover his…bases.

    The contradictions, and yes, they are many, are the result of three sets of stories, handed down by word of mouth like a generations-long game of “Chinese Whispers,” with the resultant errors that game guarantees, added to the fourth, “D,” and ultimately pieced together like a badly-crafted jigsaw, then handed to a gullible public, attributed to quill of a legendary Moses, for the existence of whom, there is no evidence anywhere, not even in Egypt, where surely, the death of all firstborn children would have been fully chronicled.

  12. I don’t really want to deal with any individual one. I find the idea of listening to a long apologetic explanation of how a specific contradiction isn’t really a contradiction if you just look at it the right way through the jesus-filter really uninteresting. You asked for specific contradictions and we’ve provided sources for hundreds of them, with references.

    If the bible were god’s perfect book, it shouldn’t have ANY contradictions, or even things that appear to be contradictions. It should be clear and straightforward enough that any human could understand it. Apologetics shouldn’t even need to be a thing. Questions about things like “Does god know everything?” or “Does god want some people to go to hell?” should have one simple and clear answer in your book, but there are verses that support both “yes” and “no” answers to those questions, and many others. And there are hundreds of these problems. Either your god is a lousy communicator, or he’s a jerk who deliberately wrote a confusing and contradictory book, or this is a human collection of books written by a bunch of human authors, who each had their own agendas and often got details wrong.

  13. Atheism is a way to not only deny the creator but live a life of unaccountably. Moral values have existed. However objective morals have been there since God created the Heavens and Earth. Laws require a “Law-giver”

  14. Do you understand why I try to proclaim Jesus as OUR king? If you do not trust Jesus, ask for forgiveness of your sins (I do on a daily or more basis) you are going to hell according to scripture. SIMPLE
    Proverbs 19:29
    Judgments are prepared for scoffers, And blows for the back of fools.

    Yes God is very clear…BTW all Christians are slaves to our King Jesus!

    T

  15. 1. (Mark 13:30-32), “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 31″Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.  32But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone,”
    2. (Matt. 24:36), “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.”
    This statement is found in the gospel of Mark and Matt. 24:36.  The answer is very simple… Jesus is both God and man (the Hypostatic Union, He was both God and man. (John 1:1,14; 20:28; Col. 2:9) During His ministry in Jerusalem, He was cooperating with the limitations of being a man.  As a man, Jesus walked and talked.  As God He was extolled and worshipped (Matt. 14:33; 28:9; Heb. 1:6), prayed to (Zech. 13:9; 1 Cor. 1:2).
    (Matt. 24:36), “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.”

  16. That’s a convoluted interpretation of the parable. The idea is that all these bad things will happen, and like the fig tree’s new leaves indicate summer, this indicates the end is near. And all of these things will come to pass before this generation (not that future generation) is dead.

    The end times were meant to happen in the life time of the generation that he was speaking to.

    Ooops, that didn’t happen. He tells of the pains to come and states they will happen before the end of this generation.

  17. Matthew 24: 34; This is Christ referring to the generation alive at the time when the last pains begin. Reference to the fig tree…Israel.

    Mark 13: 30 Again this is reference to the parable of the fig tree so you need to contextualize Mark 13:29 It is directed to the people living at the “end times” in witness (meaning martyred by you the atheists etc) to the second coming.

    Luke 21:32 Okay not really seeing any contradiction here? Can you explain?

  18. Let’s start then with the second coming – it seems a rather important thing

    When is the second coming?
    MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
    MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
    LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
    (See also 1TH 4:15-18)

    That seems a fairly dubious definition of ‘generation’

  19. Okay, which one do you want to deal with?

  20. Thoughtfully which one on that list would you like to deal with?

  21. I’ll point you here: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html

    This is a list of 476 contradictions, with links for the bible verses for each one. A lot of them are admittedly trivial, like how many children a particular person had. But some of them are quite substantive, like whether god knows everything, can do everything, and loves everybody, whether salvation is by faith or by works, whether god wants anybody to go to hell, whether any sin can be forgiven, and the like. You can check the references against your own bible, so you don’t have to just take the word of us “unbelievers”. 🙂

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